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agent in charge. tom fuentes is here with me as we await the start of the news conference. he is fully prepared, tom, you're a former fbi assistant director, our analyst now. but he is coming in and knows precisely what he wants the american public to know. >> right. that is exactly right and among the considerations that have been going on since yesterday. they have one issue of informing the public and the other of having to be careful about what kind of strategy issues they reveal. >> they don't want to do anything to undermine the investigation. at the same time they believe people might be able to help with some evidence. >> people might be able to help but at the same time they don't want to jeptize the potential success of apprehending the right people and being able to convict them later. >> you don't want to undermine an eventual prosecution if you will. we anticipate because it has been delayed now for 24 hours he obviously has something important to say. >> i would assume. there's been a lot of things going on behind the scenes over the course of the entire investigation and
. tom fuentes is in d.c., a former fbi assistant director, and cnn analyst, and jeff is also a former cia counterterrorism officer. jeff, let me begin with you and ask you about the jihadist video we have learned tamerlan tsarnaev had on his youtube channel. it has since been taken off his account, but it was there. cnn was able to retrieve it. how important is this piece to this puzzle? >> well, fredricka, i think it certainly shows what somebody's indications are, what their inclinations are, what their believes are, what are the thing said they ascribe to? they're not going to post it on their website unless it's something they believe in. therefore, i think it's going to be an important piece of evidence as the case unfolds further on. >> and jeff, do you feel like as the investigation continues, as questions continue to be asked about tamerlan's visit most recently to russia when he was there between six and nine months depending on who you talk to, whether there will be information extrapolated that might indeed help substantiate that he might have become extremist or he may hav
, and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes, also hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks. fran, let's go through the pictures. we were talking about suspect number two, wearing the white cap. there are eight still photos, i want to put up on the screen, so viewers in the united states and around the world can get a better look at this individual. you see, fran, the baseball cap backwards on his head. you see his outfit there. he could pass for anyone almost, boston, a lot of college students, he's walking around at the end of the boston marathon, pretty casually. >> he is, wolf. you used a word earlier to describe him as cocky. and let's focus on that for a second. because i think you're absolutely right. you don't get cocky and confident with a bomb in your backpack unless you've thought about this, unless you've planned it. and the likelihood is, these guys did sort of what we call operational surveillance. they did dry runs before. so when the fbi special agent in charge says they're especially interested in those who were inside the restaurant, the forum restaurant, outside of which
, cnn, boston, massachusetts. >>> i want to bring in tom fuentes, he's in washington. welcome, tom. i want to start first with the cold case that deborah feyerick was telling us about. hindsight is 20/20, but should police have approached those killings in a different way? >> well, it would seem so, but the police need to explain how they conducted their investigation. they have three victims brutally murdered and normal procedure would be to immediately be contacting every person that was close to the victims. friends, classmates, neighbors, all the usual people. and if, in fact, tamerlan was best friends with one of the victims, then you would think he would be one of the first people that would be located and contacted. why he never was, i don't know. again, this is a local triple homicide so police would handle this on their own. unless there's evidence of organized crime or evidence of terrorism, it's going to stay at the local police level and not rise to a federal investigation. >> so local police wouldn't have connected the dots when tamerlan tsarnaev? >> like i said, i don't
joined by tom fuentes, former fbi assistant director. tom, there's a lot of questions i have here about the bombs. two new pieces of information over the last hour, brand-new. number one, two bombs and two bombs only, just the ones that went off, no unexploded devices. what does that tell you? >> first of all, john, it tells you that without having unexploded devices they're going to have to piece together the ones that did explode. that's going to take longer than being able to reverse-engineer a bomb recovered intact. but, to me, what this very much reminds me -- i was one of the fbi commanders at the summer olympics in atlanta in 1996. i was on duty assisting the commander in the command post when the centennial park bomb went off. and that bomb turned out to be basically a pipe bomb in a backpack. and above it, when the -- the investigators actually had a look at that before it exploded. it had plastic food container and in the container was roofing nails. the fbi was able later in the investigation to trace back to where those nails were made, the particular company that manufactur
's hospital in boston. many bomb victims are being treated there. cnn analyst, tom fuentes joining us boston, new information about the bomb but how it was designed. jessica yellin live from the white house. we have every angle covered as we try to find more information out. >> erin, because we obviously set the scene here by remembering the little boy who lost his life, three lives were taken, his face kind of captures the symbolism of how harsh and painful the situation was. we're learning more about him and the family. we heard about the reaction from his father. carol costello's piece setting up exactly who this little boy was and what was lost. >> reporter: martin richard is now sadly the face of the tragedy. he was just 8 years old, a much loved boy. this is martin who, according to affiliate station whdh, ran into the street to congratulate his dad who was just about to cross the finish line. that moment of joy and triumph turned deadly for marten. >>> i thought i saw a child laying to the left and my wife didn't see that as she later told me. i thought perhaps it was clothing or perh
his brother was participating. tom fuentes is here, former fbi assistant director, cnn contributor. what does it look like to you? and i don't want to overly speculate, tom, because as you know early reports are often wrong. we could be way off base. but clearly they are saying this was an explosive investigating whether there's a connection. we'll see how that plays out. as a precaution, the jfk library is in the dorchester section, the john f. kennedy school of government across the charles river in cambridge has been evacuated, one of the many precautions being taken as people are alert and on edge because there's such conflict g ing information. you heard ed davis, the boston police commissioner, confirm what i was told by a state government official a bit earlier, that there were no advanced credible threats or warnings something was coming. as they launch will into the investigation now, it's not like they're trying to follow up on information they received in advance of t advance. as you look at the site here, just want to remind people this is the heart and soul of downtow
, wolf, and that is, an arrest. wolf? >> yeah, tom foreman, tom fuentes, thanks very much for that analysis. the fbi agent in charge says this investigation is in its infancy right now. up next, video from the crucial moments while the marathon was understood way, before the attack. what investigators are looking for in every image. we'll assess for you, and you may have seen the video, a man blown off his feet when the bombs went off. he's telling his dramatic story. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed: the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ over our secure network, verizon innovators are building a world of medical treatment data in the clou
they were brothers from chechnya. why i want to bring in tom fuentes right now, former assistant director from the fbi, cnn analyst. tom the associated press reporting brothers from chechnya. when you hear that, what does that mean? >> well, unfortunately it means islamic fundamentalist terrorism. chechnyans have been engaged in the battle with russia to try to break away because of the predominantly muslim regions in the southwestern area of russia. and they feel that they would like to have been separated. so they've been fighting with russia for decades to try to become an independent country. and they've committed many, many terrorist acts in russia. for a long time. of course we remember the bedouin school incident in russia in 2004. we remember the airplanes blown out of the sky over russia also in 2004. the opera house incident where more than 20 chechen terrorists took over the russian opera house, held about 800 people hostage. before that incident was over, hundreds were killed in trying to resolve that. chechnya has been kind of a training ground before afghanistan and iraq for
and cnn contributor tom fuentes, we'll be back to you soon. i want to go back to senior white house correspondent jessica yellin who has more information about the president and how he was notified. jessica? >> reporter: hi, jake. president obama was notified by his new homeland security adviser lisa monaco and other members of senior white house staff when he was in the oval office earlier today. monaco as you know took the place of his now-departed homeland security adviser who has now left for the cia. monaco new on the job, the president has spoken with the mayor of boston, tom anino, and massachusetts governor duvall patrick and offered them all the resources that they may need from the federal government. in a statement we're also told that he expressed his concern for those who were injured and made clear, again, that his administration is ready to provide needed support as they respond to this incident. jake, the president does have one event later this afternoon so we are scheduled to see him on camera. h will be officially induct the new diplomats into the foreign service
to stay inside because someone else may be on the loose. tom fuentes is a former assistant director with the fbi who knows a lot about situations like this, he is joining us on the phone now from washington. tom, you have been watching all night, what are your observations? >> i think right now we have a lot of confusion going on trying to figure out whether it's connected to the boston marathon bombing and what occurred last night. several pockets, could be the individual, they could have received notification from somebody recognizing one or both of the subjects in the video and reporting that and the police possibly approached the location. they ended up in a shoot-out and explosives being used. the second possibility is you could have a copy cat. you could have somebody else drawing on what they have seen this week from the marathon bombing and they may have planted explosives. police may have responded to that with one or two suspects, so that's still a possibility. and then the person in custody now, trying to verify whether that person is related to the explosives at m.i.t.,
. here to help us go through the latest developments is tom fuentes, a former fbi assistant director. good morning to you, tom. thank you for joining us. the intelligence committee chair, mike rogers, he said i don't think this is over. that's a quote. and he went on to say there are clearly more persons of interest and they are not 100% sure if there are not other explosives. what do you make of that? >> well, i think just what he says, that, you know, it's still difficult to believe that he could have done all this, or the two brothers could have done all this without help even before or after the event. so you know, they are looking into that. they believe that there probably could be other friends or associates or classmates that could be aware of more information about the actual marathon bombing and in particular how they spent the days afterward. the attack occurred at 2:50 in the afternoon on monday the 15th of april, and they have three full days before their pictures appear on worldwide media and the internet, and begin the events that happened thursday night and friday wit
contributor and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. julia, what are you hearing at this hour? what is important for people to know? >> people need to focus on first the response and how it really was successful moving people out. the primary concern was these runners who ended up coming right down this street rather than down boylston. the second thing is there is going to be a lot of rumors for the next 12 to 24 hours. the good news on this front is we have the devices, so that we can examine them, and there's probably a lot of cameras and video surveillance, iphones, people took pictures. i would suspect there's a break in this within 24 hours. >> there's a lot that can be learned from looking at these devices, the remnants of these devices. >> absolutely. what's the sophistication level. fingerprints. if it's someone who is new at it, they might have left other traces that will lead them in different directions. there's going to be both the foreign intelligence aspect to this and then the domestic side to it. people are asking me all day today oh, was it al qaeda, was it domesti
to the governor as soon as he gets here. governor duval patrick. tom fuentes is the former fbi assistant director, a cnn analyst joining us right now. what are you hearing? you have good sources. what is the latest information you're getting ob the status, the state of this criminal investigation into these two bombings at the boston marathon that killed three people and injured nearly 200? >> hi, wolf. i think what it shows is that it requires a great deal of meticulous work to put this together and that working with all of the still pictures, video pictures, security camera pictures, trying to put that all together into a chronological sequence to logically show who walked up to the places where those bombs went off, did someone set something down, do they have a clear picture of the person, where did they go afterward? how soon afterward did the explosion occur? that is a very pains taking, deliberative process. i think the information then of significant progress is that they do have some pictures that do show faces fairly clearly and it is very important in helping them track down the indivi
is tom fuentes, a cnn law enforcement analyst and also former fbi assistant director. good morning to you, tom. thank you for being with us. >> good morning. >> after the news broke i instantly thought that i really wanted to talk to you because it's still unclear when this call was made, when it was intercepted, but it may have happened and may have been the motivation for russia to ask the united states to look into tamerlan tsarnaev. what they heard on that call may have prompted them to ask the united states to do that. so if the fbi had known about that call and the details of it, wouldn't we have seen a much more thorough investigation or a following of tamerlan tsarnaev? >> well, i think the investigation was already thorough, but what you would have probably had is a much closer dialogue with the russians on what they knew, how they knew it, how they knew the mother was involved, what was the nature of the conversations. i don't think they have the actual transcripts or verbatim copies of the intercepts. they just have a summary that they were discussing jihad and really haven't,
to take place. i talked to tom fuentes, the former assistant director of the fbi earlier today. he was saying he thought it could be done on the internet. he used the example of the toronto 18. he said somebody involved in that plot claimed they got information over the internet in a home study program and actually tested a device in their own home. do you buy that? >> no, not at all. i've spent 30 years dealing with explosives. i'm still scared of them. i wouldn't touch them without someone standing over my shoulder. i don't know how they got detonators. that's sort of key. diddic that use cell phones for secondary power sources? i could go on and on and on, and the chances of you and i going the the store and coming home and assembling these things and making it go off is very, very remote. it's very hard to do, or they got very, very lucky. i just don't see it. >> juliet, there are so many questions and not a lot of answers, but again, why this guy who doesn't have a lot of money, doesn't have a job, travels around russia. i know he's staying with relatives but there's still lot
security adviser, juliet kayyem. tom fuentes is joining us and bob bahre. we know the fbi and cia were aware of the elder brother. and yet he was available to plan an attack on u.s. soil. is there anyway to see this as a failure? >> we shouldn't look at it as a failure of the fbi. we don't know what they knew and when they knew it. what is a failure, there's been no way to unify databases. the elder brothers buying explosives in new hampshire. gun powder. he had to give a driver's license for that. immigrations, his leaving. was the fbi in boston pinged on that? we know they weren't pinged on the return. but if you can take all this information and combine it. there would have been much clearer red flag on this. why isn't the fbi getting all this information? frankly, we don't know what's in the national security agency. normally the fbi does not have access to that raw intelligence. and so i think we're doing a disservice to the fbi by not getting it enough information on a timely basis. >> tom fuentes, do you see it in the same way? >> not exactly. much has been made about, aren't th
. >> all right. you've seen him a lot on cnn, tom fuentes, cnn analyst. how does a government track terror suspects? is it done on a priority basis? >> yes, don, and at that point, you know, you have to define what you mean by terrorist suspect. at the time the russians make the request to investigate tamerlan, the investigation is done and it is very thorough by all accounts. other members of congress have been briefed on what occurred during that investigation and they're in agreement at least, so there's a difference of opinion even among members of congress as to how thorough, whether more should have been done at the time, but at the time the investigation is done and nothing derogatory comes up, the fbi is not informed of the underlying information that causes the russians to send a letter. they're only told take a look at them. so they open the case, they do a fairly thorough job, it is not like they take a quick look and stop it. they interview people, friends, look at the electronic, who he's in contact with, which he is going to be in contact with relatives in the old country in
.s. marshals in what's called transport vehicles. they resemble large hum vees. tom fuentes joins me live now. he is in washington, d.c. and from the american college of emergency physicians is a doctor on the phone. if i could just ask you -- i hope you heard all the details. are you surprised to hear the details but not only of his arrival, but his departure and treatment in between? >> no because he is a suspect. he is very highly guarded. they have to ensure his physical safety and physical custody as well as take care of his medical issues. so, i'm not that surprised at how they handled it. >> also the transfer of this high level detainee. clearly the media was camping out 24 hours to try to get a shot of his transfer. no one was able to. the fact they used a loading dock, does that surprise you at all? >> no, because as you said they wanted to keep him sheltered from, you know, the media, any kind of pap rat zi, anything related to that. they had to have a lot of people around with him and have the medical evacuation and the transfer. they wanted it very protected because of the status
. to continue to watch what's going on. i want to go to fran townsend, tom fuentes, to get a little better sense of what we just heard. fran, give us your thoughts on what we just heard from governor deval patrick? >> i think he's trying to assure the people it will come to a conclusion and people will be brought to justice. interesting he didn't acknowledge the special agent in charge in boston, acknowledged the recovery of the pressure cooker. we talked about that this morning. the lid, there are pictures now out with the forensics. we know law enforcement has gone through these videotapes and are focused on particular individuals. they've gotten a lot of investigative work done today. and they are much closer. it was interesting to me, wolf, he didn't really want to acknowledge the -- all of the investigative progress that's pn made, other than to say they's encouraged by it and it will take time. look, they want to build themselves space to complete this thing on their own time frame. i do think it's interesting that he doesn't think there's going to be a press conference today, as you repor
troubling than that. let's bring in law enforcement analyst former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. what isn't important. what when hear this, this is not left about versus right, this is about safely, a legitimate issue. >> i would ask them that question, chris. >> say it again. >> i said -- no, i would ask the senators and the members of the house of representatives what the -- what's the purpose and what they're trying to do. obviously it appears that they're trying to find out if the fbi missed something or if the department of homeland security missed something. >> right. >> how that could have happened or should there have been some kind of stops in place, the term ping that the system was pinged, i don't know of that or how that worked. that would be something within the passport control under dhs. but i note the russian sent a message to the fbi to investigate him in 2011. now and nothing comes of that, there's nothing derogatory found near as we can tell. everything was done that could have been done and the information was sent back to russia. now, now after that investigation,
and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. tom, thanks for joining us. you've been talking to your sources, several agencies are involved including the fbi in this investigation. does anybody have any serious leads at this point? >> no, not yet, jake. i think the important factor here is that, especially the last part of the last piece, kaufman county district attorney's office, both mcclelland and hasse, did have minimal involvement in the most recent task force that investigated the aryan brotherhood of texas. that case was led by the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms, the indictments returned last november of 35 people in houston, texas. and really that was a federal task force, state and local task force with atf, fbi, marshals, dea, department of homeland security, texas department of public safety, a number of county sheriffs offices. and to help the federal prosecutors there were a couple of counties which did provide some assistance to it. so the question there is, and had what sources of mine are basically wondering, if it was aryan brotherhood of texas retaliating, w
analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. tom, can you explain how border officials interact with terrorism task forces? are they part of the task force? >> yes, jake. they're absolutely part of the task force. they're sitting side by side with every other member of the task force which would be obviously the fbi agents, but also state police, city police, county police, other federal agencies from dhs, the state department, every one of these concerned agencies and the u.s. attorney's office specifically will have representatives that are sitting there, side by side, literally, and each would have access to all of the databases that may come into play from their own home agency as well as the databases of the terrorist watch centers and screening centers, there is a variety of databases that come to play, especially because each agency also has its own individual guidelines for things that they're trying to keep track of as well. so everybody is sitting side by side, no fighting, no keeping information within one agency and not sharing it. every member of the jccs has to go
if jay carney walks out within the next minute or so. tom fuentes, our law enforcement analyst standing by, former assistant director of the fbi. quick question before we go to jay carney, tom. if these tests -- the preliminary tests, one, two, three preliminary tests show a positive reading for ricin, a deadly poison, are those usually accurate? or when they send them to maryland to more sophisticated labs they prove out to be inaccurate? >> no. they do prove out to be inaccurate. there's a very high number of false positives with the tests on ricin poison. and the test yesterday, the very first letter that arrived yesterday there were multiple tests that differed with each other in the field. so you had the first test that was positive, second test negative, third test inconclusive. so really the fbi is relying on the definitive testing from f t maryland. and, again, that will continue on -- >> that lab in maryland -- yeah, that lab, that's where they sent all the anthrax-laced letters as well. that's the most sophisticated lab that the u.s. government operates when it comes to these
. add tom fuentes to the conversation. you've been watching this. you heard the gun shots that drew heard. you saw the emergency vehicles go behind us. you heard the reports that deb is saying about the suspect perhaps being cornered. do you think this is it? this is the moment? >> well right now, erin, we have no way to know whether it is or is not for sure. but what they're hoping or what you would hope in a situation like this is that you have a -- what would be characterized as a barricaded subject with no hostages, meaning he's hold up in some room or apartment or facility but he's alone. he doesn't have anybody else. the police can surround it. they can inject gas and try to just flush him out and try to get him to surrender that way. that would be the optimum. >> david fitzpatrick is our producer as we said who is on the scene. david, tell us exactly again where you are and what is happening. >> erin, i'm in a parking lot -- commercial parking lot, probably 400 yards away from were heavily armed officers moving in amongst some houses. i see some of the officers withdrawing do
murder charges as well. and could be formally arraigned later. i want to bring in tom fuentes, the former fbi assistant director and cnn analyst right now. he's joining us from washington. tom, the suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, he's sedated in the hospital. he's the only person right now who knows why any of this occurred. but if they can't question him yet, what are they focusing on on the investigation? walk us through a little bit about what's going on behind the scenes. >> well, they're doing what they would have been doing even if he could talk. that is going through every possible e-mail, telephone conversation, well they can't get the conversation, but at least who he contacted or received calls for. going to every person identified to interview them about what they know about him and his intentions, if possible. interviewing all of the former classmates and teachers and neighbors and relatives, and although as you heard this week, most of them have nothing but glowing accounts of how great a kid he was. so they'll probably hear much of that again. but they will go through trying to
and identify these two people. >> tom fuentes is joining us now as he has been over these past several days, former assistant director of the fbi, a cnn analyst right now. take us a little bit behind the scenes, tom. what's the biggest concern the investigators have right now even as they're closing in -- apparently closing in, we hope they're closing in, on the second suspect? >> well, i think, wolf, the biggest concern they have is that increasingly you have a cornered animal essentially. he could get desperate. he could ambush the police officers that are searching apartment by apartment. he could set up booby traps and try to hurt or kill law enforcement officers by that means he could break into somebody's apartment, in other words do a home invasion and hold people hostage or become a barricaded subject with hazardous materials. so there's a number of possible problem situations that could develop in these last few minutes as they're trying to get him apprehended. as they close-in closer, he's going to become more dangerous. don't forget he's already dangerous. in addition to the mara
there are no suspects in custody. "outfront" tonight, former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and fran townsend. what is the latest can you tell us from your reporting of what we know right now? there are so many question marks. >> and there remain a lot of questions, erin. we know that this was a well planned, coordinated attack that had the two bombs go off. we're told by law enforcement authorities that they were what they refer to as crude devices. that is it wasn't a high grade explosive. as bad as those explosions look, they could have been much worse if it was a high grade explosion. what they're looking for, we see many injuries from the flying glass. they'll look to see if there were other things put in the explosives packages to increase the likelihood of injury. >> often they do, right? they put all kinds of things whether it's ball bearings, nails -- >> exactly. that's right. so they're looking for that sort of thing. they made clear to me while they're calling -- the fbi has designated this a terrorism event, they don't know whether it was perpetrated by a domestic group or a foreign gro
fran townsend, and tom fuentes. first of all, julia, what do you make of these photos the local affiliate had that show what looks like some sort of a from today, which is something that was wrapped in black and was delivered by a bag. and that sort of was the first hint they think the guy was here, the perpetrators were on-site and they dropped something. all of this seems consistent. on the other hand, it's too hard to tell, at least, from the two different slides we saw if, in fact, it was something behind the spectators and that piece sort of blew up with it. but that's the kind of information they need. what we're hearing is they have photos of say, here, and photos of here, but they don't have is right in the middle. do they have a picture of a guy dropping something or several people dropping something. that's why they're asking the public for the information and the media, as well. >> fran, last night we urged caution about authorities talking to a saudi national who was wounded in a blast. authorities are now saying that person had nothing to do with it. that he was in
a conversation with him. try to have this end where he comes into custody. >> well, that's more of tom fuentes' area of expertise in mind. >> peter, hold on one second. we just got a development here. the uncle of the suspect has just released a statement. we want to go to it right now. this is what he had to say. >> i think we don't actually quite have that. >> it's coming. we're getting ready to go. >> move the mic stand down. can someone move the mic stand down? >> easy, easy, fellas. easy. >> whoa! >> sorry. >> someone take the stand back there. >> down in front. >> here we go. >> down in front. >> can you come up here, please? >> thank you. thank you very much. >> i wanted to speak on behalf of tsarnaev. what happened when we heard this morning about people negotiated for my family, i would say my family associated. i want to start, and i will finish with that. first, the only person here to deliver condolences are those who have been murdered. those who have been injured. those boys, those chinese girls, i've just been following this. i've been following it from day one, but never, ever
john miller and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. former massachusetts homeland security director julia kiham and bob baer. this news of the russians twice expressed concerns to the u.s. about the elder brother to the cia, also to the fbi, and this word that the cia wanted to place the elder suspect on a watch list back in 2011. what do you make of it? >> actually, to me sounds fairly routine. the first request of the fbi was a foreign law enforcement cooperation request, which is pretty common. we send them to the fsb, the fsb sends them to the fbi. they wanted them essentially to cover leads, to do an investigation into his background and possible ties on u.s. soil. the request to the cia, which is legally barred from investigations on u.s. soil, was to ask if they had any leads and concerning overseas intelligence. and when you have somebody who is the subject of basically an assessment, is this person instituting a threat either on u.s. soil or russians, gathering information, that's one of the people you would place in tide. and that's the terrorist identities data m
. >> tom fuentes is a former fbi director and cnn analyst. thanks for joining us. this report saying the fbi did not alert antiterrorism officials in massachusetts that they had investigated the suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. what do you make of that? how significant is that? is that a failure? >> anderson, i'm not sure of the accuracy of that particular report. the joint terrorism task force in boston has more than 20 agencies, federal, state and local, and representatives from the state police from boston police and many surrounding towns as well as the other federal agencies from dhs including state department would all be on that jttf, would all have access, they would all discuss who's being investigated, they would all be able to go into all of the databases that each agency might use for its own purposes into master databases. i don't know how they would miss it because they have officers -- i would like to know the specific agency and whether or not they had an officer on the jttf and if not, why not? that would be my question because the fbi certainly i've run two jttfs myself p
, and a former fbi director, tom fuentes. julie ann, we've been showing this picture of a pressure cooker device in a bag. what do you make of where this investigation stands? >> it's going to be for the forensics to reassemble the devices. this black wrapping around it, where might that have come from, as well as the eyewitness accounts and pictures and all the stuff the fbi is asking for from people who were there, runners, family members. they're going to both go on simultaneously, one at quantico and one obviously here or at d.c. they're putting tremendous emphasis on who saw what here, and that's because i think there are probably gaps in terms of timing of the photographs they have. they're probably thinking the perpetrator was here on-site and put the packages down. they're hoping someone has pictures and someone comes forward. >> the fact they're still asking for the public's help -- >> means there's a gap, or they want as much information as possible, and then it's just going to take days and weeks and months. and that's the one thing to say to people watching, that this is not going to
it unfolds. >> we're getting some conflicting reports about an arrest. we have tom fuentes with us now. tom, can you hear us? are you with us? >> yes, i can. >> all right, tom. what are you hearing? >> i have actually three separate sources, but two that are very highly placed and close to the investigation that have just told me that there has been no arrest, and, in fact, a suspect has not been identified by name yet, that they have -- they're looking for someone, but don't have anybody in custody yet and don't have an identification. >> okay. now, that would be, you know, we don't know what's right or not right at this point. as anderson always says, you don't want to go down the road of speculation wrongfully, but to say they went from spotting someone on a videotape with a very vague description to finding him in such a short amount of time is a very unbelievable thing. it is possible. >> my caution, though, it is -- look, the people involved with law enforcement, sorry i've been so cautious and i was getting a little nervous we were getting ahead of this, but there is a lot of people
. but this is smart. this is just to keep people off the streets. >> we'll go to tom fuentes, former assistant director with the fbi. a cnn analyst, very broad base of knowledge on situations just like this. and tom, the news we just got that the mbta, all subways and buses suspended service at the request of the police. what do you make of that? >> hi, john. i think they are just trying to keep people locked down and reduce the amount of people out on the street and just want everybody to stay home as if you had a blizzard situation. but there's many considerations here. this has turned into almost a standard fugitive hunt that the police go through all the time. and police executives constantly learn from other incidents in other parts of the country. the most recent similar situation we had was the dorner case in los angeles just two months ago. but in that case when they found the burning vehicle, they believed he was on that mountain top. they only had 400 red dens to deal with to try to search and find him. and worry that he could carjack them and leave a week. it took a week with 400 bu
're going to talk to cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes about the boston bombing investigation as well as the new developments in russia, these special forces raids. tom fuentes coming up about 6:30 a.m. eastern time. let's go back to zoraida in new york for more of the other news. >> good morning to you john. the man accused of sending letters to president obama and two others tainted with the deadly poison ricin is due in court today. 41-year-old james everett dutschke, a martial arts instructor and former let cal candidate was arrested over the weekend. he is charged with possession and use of a biological agent. dutschke allegedly sent the tainted letters to the president, mississippi senator roger wicker and also to a local mississippi judge in >>> and four people recovering this morning after a man with a knife charged a church choir in albuquerque during his closing hymn. witnesses say the suspect jumped over several pews yesterday and simply started stabbing people. parishioners, including the flute player, taggled him and held him until police arrived. >> i took my flute and i
if this thing has begun. we have tom fuentes and fran townsend both joining us, cnn national security analysts and tom used to be the fbi former assistant director. tom, first to you and then fran, same question, what do you make of this? >> well, this is, you know, not uncommon. back in 2006, the canadians uncovered a plot later referred to as the toronto 18, and it was a collaborative investigation in canada between their intelligence service and the royal canadian mounted police and the fbi and at the time i was still running international operations at the fbi. we provided assistance to them, phone record checks and people traveling around, you know, with connections to the u.s., to make sure there was no related u.s. plot, which there was not. so this sounds very similar to that. at least with that regard. this is also that case was one i referred to where the individual who was the mastermind took one course in mechanical engineering and figured out on his own how to make a bomb, and, you know, and detonate it remotely by telephone. sodevices can be done, if a person has training, educat
security analyst tom fuentes,s had himself a former assistant director of the fbi. gloria, we know that this 19-year-old has been undergoing some interrogation, some questioning. i know you have been talking to your sources. what are you hearing? >> wolf, what i'm hearing from law enforcement is that he has been questioned since yesterday. and what i am told is there has been what one source called some form of communication between law enforcement and the suspect. that could mean perhaps that they ask him questions in one form or another, our deb feyerick has reported that he can and does nod his head in response, wolf. so they were able to communicate with him even though, as you know, he's intubated, sedated, and possibly restrained. so the extent of the communication you have and what you learn from it, i mean, clearly they're asking questions about public safe tty first and foremost about, were there other bombs, is there any other issue that they need to be concerned with? so that would be the first part of their interrogation. >> tom, this is obviously, as gloria points out,
officials in texas. we're going to talk to former fbi assistant director and cnn contributor tom fuentes in our 6:30 a.m. time slot. later on "starting point" we're going to talk to a friend and colleague of the murdered texas prosecutor mike mclelland along with kaufman county judge bruce wood, kaufman mayor william fortner and representative ted poe. >>> new this morning a tragic ending to a rescue mission in the alaska wilderness. a state trooper's helicopter picked up a person stranded on a snowmobile saturday night, and then the chopper went down. the wreckage was found yesterday. authorities say they didn't find any survivors. the pilot, a trooper, and the rescued snowmobiler were all on board that chopper. officials say the helicopter caught fire but it's not clear how. >>> also new this morning it looks like a crime, but now police are starting to think a dramatic kidnapping caught on surveillance camera was staged. the apparent kidnappers are seen racing around a corner. eventually they force a man and woman into a minivan. some witnesses say they saw a gun but the nypd is seein
eskimos to keep everybody calm, then they continue. >> that could be a powerful explosion. tom fuentes, former assistant director of the fbi. when you heard what law enforcement, massachusetts state police, the watertown police, what they had to say, of course the governor and the mayor, what was your immediate bottom line on the state, tom, of this effort to apprehend this suspect, this alleged killer? >> well i thought it's a good job on their part to come out and just let everybody know they are method clowe working through these. >> . when they say they are 60, 70% through with what they are trying to accomplish, when they say what they are doing in the neighborhoods, and a control explosion, i think it's basically telling everybody they are there, they are making everybody safe, they are gonna resolve this, they are working through the public safety. >> and i think that, again, it's an example of each agency of a task force brings to the table their expertise. so yes, you've got the federal investigators off, trying to cover leads all over the world and resolve. >> and the subject
for and they placed themselves at the scene. let's bring in tom fuentes. tom, assuming these men are the men that authorities believe them to be what is it shaping up what the purpose is, the chance that they are connected to an organization? what is your feeling? >> they probably weren't dispatched here. they have been in the u.s. a long time. doesn't appear somebody overseas trained them, sent them here on a mission. they were here, trying to assimilate into u.s. society and somehow that didn't quite take. the other thing we don't know. he may have a more dominant personality and may have directed the young kid started out okay. maybe brought him along to do bad things. one of the things we discussed at the time of the marathon, they didn't die, stay, martyr themselves. we have someone detonate two bombs and leave. actually stay around a while to watch the carnage, but then leave. we thought, well, they are not dedicated to the mission that a martyr would normally be. last night changed everything in that regard. they were not encountered. this isn't as if law enforcement got a lead, went
on technology sherri turckel, tom fuentes and clinical psychologist jeff gardere. did this sleuthing help or hurt this whole investigation? tom fuentea weuentes let me sta you. >> the only time it hurts is when you get information from the public when somebody deliberately is trying to cause trouble for an ex-husband or ex-wife or somebody they have a personal grudge with for some reason but when people are sincerely trying to help, you just never know and out of that, it's an avalanche of information, but out of that might be just the right snowflake that solves the case, so you know, from the fbi or police standpoint they'd rather have too much than too little. >> let me toss this out to the group here, is this the new norm here? are we going to see social media becoming the norm in solving big crimes like this? >> i think definitely you will. this is how people stay in touch, this is how people stay empowered, this is how people are able to communicate with one another and as psychologists, we tell people don't give in to the anxiety, don't give in to the fear. instead, find ways to be
of the fbi tom fuentes, also gloria boerger and tom, i want to start with you, i think it's critical that this was a -- seems to be, indication is, it was a spur of the moment decision, not a preplanned trip. >> right, anderson. and i think that one of the important takeaways from that is that it would also indicate that there weren't additional people involved in this plot. so, in other words, the two of them were going to go to new york and carry out the terrorist act. it would indicate that there's not a third person out there that could do it for them or was deployed to do it or could have done it simultaneously with the boston attack, so it does indicate that they probably were alone and didn't have others involved in trying to set bombs up somewhere. >> tom, also what does it tell you about the fact that they are deciding spur of the moment or talking about spur of the moment about going to new york, that they are stopping at atm machines to try to get cash by using the person they allegedly carjacked? doesn't seem like it had much of an end game here. >> it would seem so, and
me from washington, d.c., tom fuentes former assistant director for the fbi and michael bouchard former assistant director of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives. authorities are poring over these items to try to find any clues. tom, what was your first thought when you heard of the materials used to create the bomb? >> it sounded like a fairly simple bomb. using a pressure cooker is like creating a pipe bomb in essence. you put the material inside the cooker, close and lock the lid. as the explosive material burns and burns very quickly the gases expand and at a certain point it is too much pressure for the lid and the pan blows up. you can insert in that debris and shrapnel and other items but it is essentially not any different than taking a long pipe and capping both ends with an ex-ploes alternative the middle. it is just a little different thing. it is a store bought thing that seals up and works very well. >> how hard would it be to transport one of these pressure cooker bombs through a crowd as big as the one around the finish line off the boston mara
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